TipidPC.Com is becoming a site to "not learn" programming?

I just noticed that more and more students are trying not to do their own homeworks/projects and use TPC as a place where they could get someone to do their work for them. Some people are also making these students their bread and butter which I think... Is wrong... This is degrading the Filipino image and I think more and more students are losing interest in programming because they know that they could just pay someone to do their programming homework/project for them.

I think that the site administrators should do something about this.
Published 11-28-2006 1:53 AM by lamia
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Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:32 PM by cruizer

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pati utak nila tiniTIPID na rin sa karunungan, tsk-tsk. "there is no royal road to learning," as the saying goes.

Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:30 PM by keithrull

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hmmm.. i kinda remember a couple of years back when doing college projects for a fee was one of my main gigs.. it has been good for me(especially the money that you get) and you get to know other people too.. ehem(DLSU, St. Scho, Benilde and Ateneo) was some of my clients...

the sad thing is that after sometime you'll realize that you didn't really helped them at all... you made them pass their college requirements but you didn't make them a better developer or person(responsibility speaks here).

in the end... its the value of the diploma which prevails... even if it means cheating it. :( sigh.

Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:17 PM by bonskijr

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@keith: pareho pala tayo ng raket hehehe, having said that however the only reason that they're paying guys like us to do their thesis/projects is that it was already too late for them to change majors since basically they didn't show any interest with their chosen major in the first place. Several factors I guess:barkada, it was the "IN" thing way back, gf/bf ko andun, parents etc...

Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:11 AM by darwin25

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Nyahaha. Ganyan din ako dati. Pero paminsan minsan tumatanggap pa din ako. Pero tutorials na lang. Hindi na ko tumatanggap ng pagawa. I remember one time classmate ko. First question ng panelist. "Ikaw ba gumawa nya?". Sagot agad sya ng "Hindi po". Hindi man lang nagpahirap. Tumuga agad. Nyahahaha.

Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:42 AM by lamia

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Lolz, ok lang yang tutorial atleast natututo diba? Pero yung ikaw talaga gagawa is a very very very bad thing. Guilty din ako dito but I immediately realized that it's a bad thing.

Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:00 PM by keithrull

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hmmmm... I think its also about the motivation of the individual. pwede kasing kaya ayaw niya ng magaral ng IT eh dahil mayaman naman sila at kaya siyang palamunin ng magulang niya habang buhay :P or He/She doesnt find his/herself programming.. maaring ang eyes niya eh set sa call center industry or something else related to IT. maari ding they just want to complete the requirements para lang magkadiploma...

Anyway...

A statistics a couple of years back said na 2 out of 10 people who graduate in CS/IT would be a programmer. 3 out the 8 would be in call centers 2 would be doing something else outside of IT and 3 would be jobless.

Maybe we need more jobs para mamotivate sila to study harder :)

Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:11 PM by cruizer

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ako rin, i was approached a few times by graduating students who asked me to do their thesis. i refused but i offered my help to them (tutorial lang) for free instead. dati natutukso din akong tumanggap nyan (syempre easy money) kaso nga lang sila naiisip ko eh, wala silang natutunan tapos nakinabang lang yun wallet ko. tsk-tsk.

Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:03 AM by Orange

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Add this, most of the professors/instructors/facilitators is indirectly encouraging the students. Would you believe that they didn't know that the project is being bought or being made by someone?, I am sure that they know the capacity of their students, if the student can't, fail it. Not give a "oh-sige-ganitong-project-na-lang-gawin-mo."

...dagdag mo pa yung curriculum nating kulang.

...But somehow, may mga successful pa rin naman. Know thyself. : )

Friday, June 29, 2007 8:25 AM by CURIOUS100

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NASA ESTUDYANTE ANG PROBLEMA.MAHINA ANG FOUNDATION NILA KAYA SILA NGRERELY SA TPC. OK

Friday, June 29, 2007 11:36 AM by Jim Reforma (virushacker23@yahoo.com)

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Even my self before. I do accept software programming during  my college days.

The real problem of our students today is "lack off parental guidance / consent". The students should ask a  support with their parents. Parents is the main foundation for the students to learn. The proper way how parents teaches their child in early development. From the time the child was birth till goes to school and so on... meaning sa umpisa pa lang ng pagsilang ng isang tao dapat matuto sya ng tamang paraan kung papaano sya gagagawa ng tama at may kabuluhan bukod pa sa kanyang pagkatuto, dapat din kapulutan ng aral ang lahat ng payo na nagmumula sa magulang. Hindi dapat masamain ng isang bata o anak o ng students na sya ay pinangangaralan ng kanyang magulang dahil para sa kanya din yun.

Kapag pilalaki mo ang bata na mali, mali din ang kakalakihan ngang sistema tulad ang; halimbawa pinamulat mo sa bata na madami kayong pera at lahat magagawa ng pera katulad ng pagawa ng project, simple lang yan magbayad lang ako sa kilala ko gagawa hindi pa ako pagod, isa pa dapat ang bata sa umpisa pa lang lahat ng gagawin nya may kaakibat na paghihirap so in the end sya parin ang natuto at nahasa dahil sya ang gumawa or something na kakapulutan nya ng aral.

That is the real principle of Life. Learn from the basic foundation to advance.

Sabi ko nga sa sarili ko "Knowledge is a gift given by Our Almighty GOD, so use it wisely!"

-Jim Reforma[virushacker23@yahoo.com]

http://www.linuxman.2ya.com/  

Friday, June 29, 2007 11:38 AM by Jim Reforma (virushacker23@yahoo.com)

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Study hard guys. That is they key to learn.

Friday, June 29, 2007 11:46 AM by virushacker

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nasa magulang ang pagkatuto ng mga kabataan ngayon. dapat sa mga kabataan ngayon ay may gabay ng magulang.

Para doon naman sa mga nagaak-accept ng software programming dapat patas ang laban, pwede ka tumanggap ng bayad pero dapat siguraduhin mo na parehas kayo matututo halimbawa: babayaran ka ng buo kalahati ang kunin mo at kahit pano bigyan mo sya ng tutorial or sya ang pagawin mo when it comes to coding procedure, then approach mo sya na ikaw na ang mag-code ng matuto sya at bukod dun kumita ka pa then hindi mo pa konsensya na hindi ka nakalamang ng kapwa mo tao.

Lahat ng bagay sa mundo may kaukulang kapalit, pero dapat tama at hindi naglalamangan.  

Isa lang yan sa aking mga prinsipyo sa buhay. Sana sa bandang huli kapulutan nyo ng aral..

-Jim Reforma[virushacker23@yahoo.com]

http://www.linuxman.2ya.com/  

Friday, June 29, 2007 11:54 AM by virushacker

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At para naman sa TipidPC.com ang sa kanila negosyo lang yan.  Kaya merong tipidPc.com ay dahil sa students. What if their is no students who will need their help when it comes for their software projects, do you agree that tipidPc.com will not exist if all the Filipino students today is self support or aka Genius or poor. Remember even poor people or lack of money or middle class, they do their best to finish their project with their own effort step by step with the help of their co-students under the guidance of their prof / instructor.

Ang totoo hindi naman mangmang ang kabataan ngayon, nagiging palaasa lang sila, tipong "bakit pa ako magpapakahirap meron naman ako pera pambayad sa paggawa at meron naman gagawa nyan para sa akin" -Jim Reforma

-Jim Reforma[virushacker23@yahoo.com]

http://www.linuxman.2ya.com/  

Friday, November 16, 2007 8:30 PM by S.A.

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Perhaps language is another factor, especially when Tagalog is always the dominant tongue used at home, and English is relegated as a language good for watching Hollywood movies or belting out the latest emo or gansta hits.

I've seen enough of ordinary comsci students (mostly less-privileged and without computers at home) who, when confronted with the English language and mathematical symbols, couldn't comprehend the programming books they've bought at the bookstore. Then there's their problem of trying to visualize the logic flow, or the design of the user interface. Hence, they end up following by the book instead of making their own programs.

Well, I think it's the fault of the marketing hypesters in the (overcommercialized) computer education industry of neglecting these glaring deficiencies, including the creativity factor that's sorely missing in today's youth, and focusing instead on the (elusively big and glamorous) potential paycheck in (the unpromised) job that the comsci graduate is supposed to receive.

Monday, January 07, 2008 6:36 AM by anthology

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eh ang mga gumagawa nyan eh yung mga may pera from private schools like ateneo, la salle, beda, etc. tapos yung pinagpapagawan nila eh yung mga galing sa public schools. Nakakatawa kase pagkatapos nila mag-aral at pagkuha ng work, yung ibang lecheng company mas kinukuha yung mga kilalang schools like la salle then yung mga magagaling talaga na galing sa hindi kilalang schools nirereject nila! mga gungg0ng! dapat pagbawal ng mga admin ng TPC yan para hindi naman kahiya hiya yang mga atenista, la salista, etc. na yan! pwe

Friday, January 25, 2008 5:44 AM by Kris

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interesting

Monday, February 11, 2008 7:14 PM by jakelite

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and the saddest part here is, these people who don't really know how to code end up as instructors. so now it becomes a continuously degrading cycle or shall i say "bagsakan" for the "latak" of the graduating batch.

this is the reason why mathematical notations for databases (relational algebra) and big-0 notation is no longer explained in algorithm classes.

really sad.

Monday, June 16, 2008 12:52 AM by den

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kahit mahina ang foundation. marami namang books to learn on their own. dapat talagang tulungan ang mga estudyanteng ito. hindi pagkakitaan

Monday, June 16, 2008 1:16 AM by tats

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hindi pala kaya ang programming...e di nursing na lang kunin nila, walang programming dun.............

Monday, June 16, 2008 1:26 AM by Outsider

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make love not war

Monday, June 16, 2008 2:22 AM by mj27

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mga boss paano naman ung gusto matuto? ipagkakait nio ba sa kanila ? o isa rin kayong mga gunggong? kaawa naman sila sa kaalaman.. kahiya kayo para kayong walang pinag aralan.. di ko alam baka isa rin kayo sa walang alam.

Monday, June 16, 2008 2:45 AM by guest

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Its also the ineffectiveness of schools who can be easily duped by students for their thesis.

Students are required to make a thesis that tackles more on using technology tools rather than the true essence of computing.

Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:41 PM by tipidpc

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