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The Microsoft developer mindset when it comes to open source
Ayende Rahien and Jeremy Miller brought forth the arguments in their respective blog entries, and I couldn't agree more. In fact I've seen that mindset first hand with my teammates in my previous employer.

The first time I discovered test-driven development, I told my teammate about it. We were experiencing difficulties with the online banking system that we inherited from the bank's former developers. Bugs were everywhere and at times performance and stability were major problems. I told him that by using tools such as NUnit we can create automated tests for our code and that by adopting the practice we can reduce the incidence of such bugs. His answer was, "Hey Andre that's a great idea but I'd rather wait for one that's created by Microsoft."

Ah, the gulf between the Java developer mindset and the Microsoft (visual) developer mindset...!

Posted 12-11-2006 9:46 AM by cruizer
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Jon Limjap wrote re: The Microsoft developer mindset when it comes to open source
on 12-10-2006 7:09 PM

If the math I did in my head is correct, he got what he asked for after 2 years. Wait for Microsoft... haaaay. That's what we have to do for Sandcastle now that NDoc is history and doesn't completely support .NET 2.0

Jon Limjap wrote re: The Microsoft developer mindset when it comes to open source
on 12-10-2006 7:16 PM

If the math I did in my head is correct, he got what he asked for after 2 years. Wait for Microsoft... haaaay. That's what we have to do for Sandcastle now that NDoc is history and doesn't completely support .NET 2.0

cruizer wrote re: The Microsoft developer mindset when it comes to open source
on 12-10-2006 7:23 PM

hi Jon, you're correct...anyway I used the following to have my NDoc running on .NET 2.0. May bugs nga lang. http://jonas.lagerblad.com/blog/?p=4

undetected wrote re: The Microsoft developer mindset when it comes to open source
on 12-13-2006 8:23 AM

To be fair, something similar also exists in Java.  Sure, there's no one company, but it isn't unusual for a developer or a manager to be turned off of a useful library if it hadn't already gained significant hype or came from something like Apache or some other big name.  It may not be as prevalent, but it's still there.

cruizer wrote re: The Microsoft developer mindset when it comes to open source
on 12-26-2006 4:52 PM

i think the case in the Java world is different. devs there don't prefer Sun-provided tools and libraries (e.g. NetBeans) just because they're from Sun.

undetected wrote re: The Microsoft developer mindset when it comes to open source
on 01-16-2007 7:47 AM

Not Sun specifically, but for most managers, it still has to come from some big name.  Struts? Allowed cause it's from Apache.  Stripes?  Nope.

Dave wrote Overgeneralisation!
on 02-06-2007 4:20 AM

Well I'm a C# developer - and we use open source stuff at my place of work all the time. For instance we use SubVersion rather than SourceSafe, FlySpray for bug tracking and various other Open Source tools.

I think your example is just a crap developer in general rather than a solid example of an MS developer.

Dave wrote Closed mindsets
on 02-08-2007 4:40 AM

I left a comment a couple of days ago regarding the fact that I am a VS developer and I use open source tools all the time. Seems you don't want to share that view with your readers - is that a sign of *your* closed mindset?

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